Hidden Truth/Hidden Truth.iso/data/genufo/roswell_qa.txt

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From: [e-mail] (Don Nellesen)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: ROSWELL Q & A
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 2 Jul 93 23:13:51 GMT
Organization: Sim's Electronic Musicians' Publishing Company
Lines: 167

        This article was picked-up from the MOFONet BBS and is posted
   here with permission of the same.
        I did not write it so don't ask me questions about it. 8^)
        ****DON****
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QUESTIONS & ANSWERS ABOUT THE TOP SECRET-EYES ONLY UFO BRIEFING DOCUMENTS:
1. Is there any other evidence that the U.S. government retrieved a crashed
   alien craft outside Roswell, New Mexico in July, 1947?
    Moore and Friedman have since 1978 conducted a very, very extensive
    research project concerning the so-called Roswell Incident. To date, 92
    different people have been located and interviewed about the event, 31 of
    whom had first-hand involvement. Included are several generals, the base
    security officer, counter-intelligence corps personnel, the neighbors and
    family of the rancher who discovered the wrecked device, the public
    relations officer of the air base, local news media personnel, etc. etc.
    To date, one book and five research papers have been published presenting
    the data.

2. Is there any proof that the event was first publicized and then covered up
   by the government?
    Yes. A press release was first distributed by the Army Air Force at
    Roswell stating that a crashed disc had been recovered. Then shortly
    afterwards the head of the 8th Air Force announced that a mistake had been
    made and that it was only a radar reflector from a weather balloon. The
    officer who took the call from Washington, DC with the instructions to
    cover-up the story has so testified to Friedman and Moore. Many people who
    handled the very strange materials have testified that the material could
    not have been from a radar reflector. Ten first-hand witnesses are on
    record as having stated that the object was, in fact, some sort of space
    craft.

3. Was there any evidence of strange writing on the retrieved material?
    Yes. five persons who actually handled pieces of the wreckage have
    described very unusual symbols on pieces of the wreckage.

4. Is there any evidence that President-elect Eisenhower received a military
   briefing on 18 November, 1952?
    Yes. Information at the Eisenhower Library and in the Truman files
    indicates White House and Pentagon briefings on that date. A Washington
    _Post_ article also confirms a briefing on that date.

5. Is there any evidence that Bush and Forrestal met with Truman on Sept.
   24th, 1947?
    Yes. Forrestal's diary, Bush's files and the Truman Library listing of
    Presidential activities all establish that Bush and Forrestal first met
    with each other and then with Truman on that date. Bush and Forrestal
    often met with each other during the 1947-1949 time frame.

6. Is there any evidence that the Cutler to Twining "Top Secret-Eyes Only"
   memo is genuine?
    Yes. There are several factors to be considered here:
     A. It was found in a file box at the National Archives by Moore and
        Shandera who were the first persons to go through the newly
        declassified materials.
     B. The archivist Joanna Williamson who was in charge of the RG 341 file
        is quoted in the London _Observer_ as saying "It was found in the
        files of the U.S. Air Force's Director of Intelligence and is
        certainly genuine."
     C. A very similar in format and content "Top Secret-Eyes Only" memo was
        sent by Cutler to Twining in 1953 about a similar NSC meeting on
        another, unrelated, project.

7. Why is there no signature on the memo?
    The file copy was a carbon. Carbons are not normally signed.

8. Is there any reason at all to think that Harvard Astronomer Dr. Donald
   Menzel, who wrote three anti-UFO books and many articles, could really have
   been part of a Top Secret-Eyes Only group that knew some UFOs were
   "Identified Alien Craft"?
    As a result of extended research by Friedman at Harvard and elsewhere,
    these facts have been established about Menzel:
     A. Menzel once mentioned in a letter written to President-elect Jack
        Kennedy that he possessed a Top Secret-Ultra security clearance.
     B. Menzel claimed to JFK in 1960 that he had a longer continuous
        association with the highly classified National Security Agency (NSA)
        and its predecessor U.S. Navy agency than anyone else in the
        government at that time.
     C. Menzel's association with Dr. Vannevar Bush, wartime head of the
        Office of Scientific Research and Development, dates back to 1934.
     D. Bush was the staunchest Menzel defender at a USAF loyalty hearing in
        1950. Indeed, Bush had instructed Menzel's attorney to notify him
        (Bush) immediately upon resolution of the loyalty problem.
     E. Menzel worked on classified programs for more than 30 different
        companies.
     F. Menzel is on record as having made numerous trips during 1947 to both
        Washington, DC and New Mexico on government research activities.
     G. Menzel had learned Japanese for his cryptography work for the Navy,
        was familiar with disinformation, and would have been the perfect
        person to show the Roswell writing to.
     H. Menzel had written science fiction and popular newspaper articles for
        major papers. He was the best qualified of the 12 to put out
        disinformation and his first book was translated into Russian.

9. The documents indicate that a second object crashed in Texas on the night
   of December 6th-7th , 1950. Is there any indication that such an event ever
   occurred?
    Yes. A copy of an official communique was located in files released by the
    FBI indicating a "high alert" status about UFOs had been called by the Air
    Force on December 8th, 1950. There are also several newspaper articles
    indicating that military leaves at various airbases were abruptly
    cancelled that same day.

10. What about other official documentary evidence?
    A formerly Top Secret Canadian memo dated November, 1950, states that "the
    matter (of UFOs) is the most highly classified subject in the United
    States Government" and identified Dr. Vannevar Bush as head of a project
    which was trying to discover how UFOs work.

11. Isn't it true that Admiral Hillenkoetter was actually serving in the
    Pacific at the time of the supposed Eisenhower briefing?
    No. The facts are that he had been assigned to Pacific duty in November,
    1950, but he returned as commander of the Brookly, NY, Naval Base in
    September, 1951. In June, 1952, he was named Commandant of the US Navy
    Third District and was based in New York City.

12. Doesn't it seem strange that General Eisenhower had to be briefed in 1952
    on matters about which he surely would have been informed as Army Chief of
    Staff years earlier?
    Not at all. The facts are that he accepted the job as President of
    Columbia University in June, 1947 -- _before_ the Roswell Incident and the
    establishment of Majestic 12. He served until May, 1950, when he began a
    very difficult job in Europe as Supreme Commander of the NATO forces
    trying to unify a number of different military and political factions. He
    remained there until 1952 when he returned to campaign for the presidency.
    In other words, he had no "need-to-know" during the period July, 1947
    through November, 1952. His forte was neither intelligence nor technology.

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*----From: [e-mail] (Don Nellesen)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: ROSWELL Q & A
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 2 Jul 93 23:13:51 GMT
Organization: Sim's Electronic Musicians' Publishing Company
Lines: 167

        This article was picked-up from the MOFONet BBS and is posted
   here with permission of the same.
        I did not write it so don't ask me questions about it. 8^)
        ****DON****
******************************************************************************
QUESTIONS & ANSWERS ABOUT THE TOP SECRET-EYES ONLY UFO BRIEFING DOCUMENTS:
1. Is there any other evidence that the U.S. government retrieved a crashed
   alien craft outside Roswell, New Mexico in July, 1947?
    Moore and Friedman have since 1978 conducted a very, very extensive
    research project concerning the so-called Roswell Incident. To date, 92
    different people have been located and interviewed about the event, 31 of
    whom had first-hand involvement. Included are several generals, the base
    security officer, counter-intelligence corps personnel, the neighbors and
    family of the rancher who discovered the wrecked device, the public
    relations officer of the air base, local news media personnel, etc. etc.
    To date, one book and five research papers have been published presenting
    the data.

2. Is there any proof that the event was first publicized and then covered up
   by the government?
    Yes. A press release was first distributed by the Army Air Force at
    Roswell stating that a crashed disc had been recovered. Then shortly
    afterwards the head of the 8th Air Force announced that a mistake had been
    made and that it was only a radar reflector from a weather balloon. The
    officer who took the call from Washington, DC with the instructions to
    cover-up the story has so testified to Friedman and Moore. Many people who
    handled the very strange materials have testified that the material could
    not have been from a radar reflector. Ten first-hand witnesses are on
    record as having stated that the object was, in fact, some sort of space
    craft.

3. Was there any evidence of strange writing on the retrieved material?
    Yes. five persons who actually handled pieces of the wreckage have
    described very unusual symbols on pieces of the wreckage.

4. Is there any evidence that President-elect Eisenhower received a military
   briefing on 18 November, 1952?
    Yes. Information at the Eisenhower Library and in the Truman files
    indicates White House and Pentagon briefings on that date. A Washington
    _Post_ article also confirms a briefing on that date.

5. Is there any evidence that Bush and Forrestal met with Truman on Sept.
   24th, 1947?
    Yes. Forrestal's diary, Bush's files and the Truman Library listing of
    Presidential activities all establish that Bush and Forrestal first met
    with each other and then with Truman on that date. Bush and Forrestal
    often met with each other during the 1947-1949 time frame.

6. Is there any evidence that the Cutler to Twining "Top Secret-Eyes Only"
   memo is genuine?
    Yes. There are several factors to be considered here:
     A. It was found in a file box at the National Archives by Moore and
        Shandera who were the first persons to go through the newly
        declassified materials.
     B. The archivist Joanna Williamson who was in charge of the RG 341 file
        is quoted in the London _Observer_ as saying "It was found in the
        files of the U.S. Air Force's Director of Intelligence and is
        certainly genuine."
     C. A very similar in format and content "Top Secret-Eyes Only" memo was
        sent by Cutler to Twining in 1953 about a similar NSC meeting on
        another, unrelated, project.

7. Why is there no signature on the memo?
    The file copy was a carbon. Carbons are not normally signed.

8. Is there any reason at all to think that Harvard Astronomer Dr. Donald
   Menzel, who wrote three anti-UFO books and many articles, could really have
   been part of a Top Secret-Eyes Only group that knew some UFOs were
   "Identified Alien Craft"?
    As a result of extended research by Friedman at Harvard and elsewhere,
    these facts have been established about Menzel:
     A. Menzel once mentioned in a letter written to President-elect Jack
        Kennedy that he possessed a Top Secret-Ultra security clearance.
     B. Menzel claimed to JFK in 1960 that he had a longer continuous
        association with the highly classified National Security Agency (NSA)
        and its predecessor U.S. Navy agency than anyone else in the
        government at that time.
     C. Menzel's association with Dr. Vannevar Bush, wartime head of the
        Office of Scientific Research and Development, dates back to 1934.
     D. Bush was the staunchest Menzel defender at a USAF loyalty hearing in
        1950. Indeed, Bush had instructed Menzel's attorney to notify him
        (Bush) immediately upon resolution of the loyalty problem.
     E. Menzel worked on classified programs for more than 30 different
        companies.
     F. Menzel is on record as having made numerous trips during 1947 to both
        Washington, DC and New Mexico on government research activities.
     G. Menzel had learned Japanese for his cryptography work for the Navy,
        was familiar with disinformation, and would have been the perfect
        person to show the Roswell writing to.
     H. Menzel had written science fiction and popular newspaper articles for
        major papers. He was the best qualified of the 12 to put out
        disinformation and his first book was translated into Russian.

9. The documents indicate that a second object crashed in Texas on the night
   of December 6th-7th , 1950. Is there any indication that such an event ever
   occurred?
    Yes. A copy of an official communique was located in files released by the
    FBI indicating a "high alert" status about UFOs had been called by the Air
    Force on December 8th, 1950. There are also several newspaper articles
    indicating that military leaves at various airbases were abruptly
    cancelled that same day.

10. What about other official documentary evidence?
    A formerly Top Secret Canadian memo dated November, 1950, states that "the
    matter (of UFOs) is the most highly classified subject in the United
    States Government" and identified Dr. Vannevar Bush as head of a project
    which was trying to discover how UFOs work.

11. Isn't it true that Admiral Hillenkoetter was actually serving in the
    Pacific at the time of the supposed Eisenhower briefing?
    No. The facts are that he had been assigned to Pacific duty in November,
    1950, but he returned as commander of the Brookly, NY, Naval Base in
    September, 1951. In June, 1952, he was named Commandant of the US Navy
    Third District and was based in New York City.

12. Doesn't it seem strange that General Eisenhower had to be briefed in 1952
    on matters about which he surely would have been informed as Army Chief of
    Staff years earlier?
    Not at all. The facts are that he accepted the job as President of
    Columbia University in June, 1947 -- _before_ the Roswell Incident and the
    establishment of Majestic 12. He served until May, 1950, when he began a
    very difficult job in Europe as Supreme Commander of the NATO forces
    trying to unify a number of different military and political factions. He
    remained there until 1952 when he returned to campaign for the presidency.
    In other words, he had no "need-to-know" during the period July, 1947
    through November, 1952. His forte was neither intelligence nor technology.

******************************************************************************
***********Internet:sempco![e-mail](Don Nellesen)************
*     UUCP:wupost.wustl.edu!sempco!donn     |      __     __       *     *
*-------------------------------------------|      \ \   / /   *         *
*      C=AMIGA:Every little bit counts!     |   *   \_\ /_/       _ *    *
*  The oppinions expressed are my right to  |                   _---_  * *
*    have; as is your right to disagree.    |          "       -__O__-   *
*   A Mind Is A Terible Thing To Chaste!    | *   *    -       _/ = \_   *
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